Debunking Western propaganda against China - Concentration camps for Uighurs [VIDEO 3 - 1st part]
VIDEO 3 - China's secret internment camps | Vox | USA
As more videos from western media will be debunked here, you will notice the pattern: a western consensus about a parallel reality of persecuted/imprisoned/vanished Uighurs that it is NOT there. That goes to show that consensus about who are the good guys (us) and who are the bad guys (the others) is an Orwellian perception of a reality that actually doesn't exist. Or, as Thierry Meyssan wrote:
The consensus of journalists and politicians is no more valuable than that of theologians and astronomers in the face of Galileo's discoveries. No consensus has ever established the truth. Only the Reason applied to the evidence allows us to approach it."
The first 10 seconds of this video report are a pure lie. There's no better way to put it: big blatant lie!
"These are satellite images from the deserts of Western China. Look closely and you will see these huge complexes being built."
No, these satellite images are NOT from deserts. These satellite images are from the opposite of deserts: suburbs of towns, suburbs of cities, city-centers and roadside locations, as we shall see next.
Vox began by telling these blatant lies in order to insinuate/imply the idea that, by being supposedly located in desertic/remoted places, we are all prevented from reaching those obscure hidden places where Vox wants to believe all kind of horrors might be happening.
Yet, the opposite is true. The alleged vocational centers shown in Vox's video are not located in remote places. Look:
Build 13
If you zoom out, you can see that this unidentified "complex" is located in Jiliyuzizhen town, next to Yining city. With a population of 542,507 persons and a density of 860person/km2, Yinin is clearly not a "desert". Yinin is the capital of Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture, with a population of 4,582,500 persons.
Build 14
This unidentified building is surrounded by other buildings in the middle of a city (Maralbexi, 380,000 inhabitants). Vox lied. And with 160 meters width, this is not a "huge complex". Vox lied again:
If Vox was interested in reporting about "complexes" that are truly "huge", Vox could focus on US prisons like Los Angeles County Jail, 1,580 meters wide and 20,000 inmates, 10 times bigger than Building 14, and also located in a kind of desertic area more remote than its Chinese counterpart:
Build 1
Build 1 is the best example Vox has of a "huge complex" located in "the deserts of western China", as one has to cross a few hundred meters of "desert" to reach civilization! A couple of minutes away by car, moving southwards, there are several towns and villages: Dabancheng, Dabanchengzhen, Xishuwozicun, Bajiahucun, and Dabancun. Again, Vox is caught lying!
To make it even more ridiculous, there's the China National Highway 312 passing right next to the "complex", which is the road one has to take to reach the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region capital of Urumqi (located a mere 90km away)! Give me a break!
"From the sky, they sort of look like factories or even schools."
You know why? Because the unidentified buildings you selected for your unprofessional and unscientific propaganda might indeed be some sort of factories or even schools.
Can I prove that some of them are factories and schools? No.
Can Vox prove that none are factories of schools?
No. Conclusion: 5 seconds wasted analyzing thin air.
I could do the same with satellite images of buildings in the US, resembling all kinds of other buildings, but then what?
I could zoom in some unknown US facilities and equally say that they resemble schools or factories, to then do like Vox and insinuate that those unidentified buildings are concentration camps for Afro-Americans and Native Americans. Then what?
"But look even closer. This line is one facility's perimeter wall. And these shadows... they are cast by the watchtowers along the wall."
Yes, sure, right, exactly... and so what? If it is indeed one of the vocational centers created to implement the rehabilitation of Muslim Uighurs, it is perfectly reasonable to find a school-like building with jail-like characteristics such as watchtowers. Security is needed to prevent attacks by the al-Qaeda-linked terrorist Turkestan Islamic Party, which have in the past attacked fellow Uighurs when they refused to participate in terrorist acts. Is Vox disapproving security measures to prevent terrorist attacks against Uighurs staying in vocational centers?
"It's an internment camp."
It is not! It's a vocational center.
Well, in the sense that some of the persons undergoing de-radicalization stay there for several months, yes, an "internment" place. But not a "camp", as the concrete building Vox showed does not look like any temporary means of shelter.
And surely not the "concentration camp" Vox viciously tries to insinuate, as all footage available prove that Chinese vocational centers look nothing like concentration camps. If Vox wants to find real concentrations camps, no need to leave US soil:
Yes, on US soil! Yes, in your own dystopian country, there are real concentration camps:
This is a fucking concentration camp. We are running concentration camps. https://t.co/D6KVPNgY04
— Lauren Hough (@laurenthehough) March 28, 2019
Yes, on US soil you even have concentration camps for children:
Given the barbaric way the US administration treats migrants from southern countries raped by the same US administration (like Honduras, after US-made coup, 2009), how dares a US media to insinuate, without providing evidence, that China would have what US provenly has? How dare you Vox?
"Inside these camps, the Chinese government is detaining as many as 1 million Uighurs, China's mostly Muslim minority."
First, China is not detaining anybody. Some are coming to vocational centers voluntarily. Some others are forced to pass through a several months program of de-radicalization after they have been involved with al-Qaeda or al-Qaeda linked terrorist organizations. Again, what is wrong with it? Does Vox support terrorism? Does Vox support al-Qaeda? Yes, of course!
Uighur terrorists carrying weapons
Uighur terrorists in Syria joining al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations
Uighur children receiving terrorist training:
China offers a peaceful short program that includes learning skills to help them get new jobs. Vox decided to demonize China because Vox represents arrogant xenophobic West and wants to convince its audience to hate China! Shame on the West for its sickening sense of superiority, never giving the benefit of doubt to other races/nations/people like the Chinese, and never stopping for a second to listen to their side of the story:
Thanks to China's de-radicalization courses in #Xinjiang, not a single #terror case has occurred in the past three years and tourism is booming once again. What's wrong with rehabilitation? Maybe it is condemned by the #US simply because it's done by #China, says @thepointwithlx pic.twitter.com/v3dcbHZuKB
— T-House (@thouse_opinions) December 6, 2019
US Terror State violates International Law to commit horrendous crimes against humanity abroad, but that's just fine, right Vox? US Terror State even killed Chinese Uighurs in Pakistan by drone bombing them, but that was just fine, right?
China is bad for trying to persuade radicalized Chinese Uighurs to leave al-Qaeda and TIP. The US is wonderful because it bombs and kills the same kind of radicalized Uighurs without even granting them the right to defend themselves in court? Oh, infinitely hypocritical West! Oh, infinitely criminal USA! Oh, infinitely delusional western journalists!
Second, no, China is not detaining "as many as 1 million Uighurs". Vox is lying and, like all liars, it will never be able to prove what does NOT exist.
Adrian Zenz made it up, using the dumbest unscientific extrapolation ever attempted! This religious fanatic serving "a missing from god" took the number of some Uighurs "missing" in some villages and then, from the total population of Uighurs in China, he simply extrapolated the figure of more than "1 million Uighurs missing"!
Nowadays, Zenz goes even wilder:
Based on the sampling of interviews in villages in Kashgar Prefecture, we have conservatively estimated that at least 10% of villagers there are being detained in re-education detention camps, and 20% are being forced to attend day/evening re-education camps in the villages or townships, totaling 30% in both types of camps.
This admitted anti-communist (a member of US-backed Brzezinski-founded Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation) went from 1 million of Uighurs vanishing in concentration camps to 3 millions of Uighurs vanishing in concentration camps by adding the 20% of those who attend training in vocational centers during the day, WITHOUT STAYING OVERNIGHT!
In other words, we are told that, in China, there are people suffering part-time genocide or being victims of part-time persecution in concentration camps. Absurd? Silly? Unscientific? Dishonest?
Yes, yes, yes and Yes! But, in that case, why do people swallow such absurdities? Just because they are willing to hate China? Because most have lost the ability to reason? Both?
I would say both...
Third, Vox lied again because Uighur minority is NOT china's mostly Muslim minority! The Uighur minority is second China's mostly Muslim minority, after the Hui. These imbeciles working for Vox can't get the simplest fact right! Credibility below zero!
"China doesn't want the world to know any of this."
Liar. China does want the world to know about vocational centers and about its fight against extremism. To prove this person lied, there are plenty of reports published by the Chinese government and Chinese state media in several languages, including in English:
To confirm the lie, there's the expression "any of this". Really? "Any" like not a single word or footage about it? If so, how do you explain that Chinese state media produce abundant footage like this one:
Maybe the word "know" is the one misplaced. What China doesn't want is to have the world lying about Xinjiang and, to expose Western lies, China actually wants us to know what is really going on in Xinjiang. Please check the Intro for more Chinese reports on many aspects of the Xinjiang issue.
"But the story of these camps is also the story of how we know about them - and China's effort's to cover them up."
Yes, right, that's the only story here, built over post-modern bricks. "How" western media like Vox shamelessly made up unexisting genocides and unexisting imprisonment of millions of people in concentration camps.
"How" we "know" about them? Well, by having media like Vox lying, insinuating, manipulating, omitting, etc.
China can't do any effort to prove the non-existence of something that does not exist and, anyway, so far nobody was able to show hard evidence of people being executed or imprisoned in concentration camps in Xinjiang.
China can't cover emptiness, and rational beings know that this is a very well known fallacy. Nonetheless, most Western sheep-like humans swallow it the same way they swallowed Saddam Hussein had to prove the location of the WMD he didn't have. Nothing new here, only typical Western arrogant incoherence.
"As soon as we began to document the reeducation centers, there were Chinese officials deleting what we were finding."
Deleting what? What documents? Deleting from where? How? What was in the supposedly lost content? What did they find, precisely? Oh, how unbearably simplistic is Western propaganda nowadays! Vox does not provide a single piece of refined fallacy, only plain false statements.
Nonetheless, that's enough to fool most of gullible Westerners, proving how delusional the West became. On the other hand, for rational beings, extraordinary accusations still require equally extraordinary evidence.
Otherwise, when a journalist says something like "US officials deleted every evidence of life on the Moon" without being specific and without providing evidence, the only reaction from a reasonable being will be to laugh out loud!
Those who don't get the seriousness of this kind of situation (to make a bold accusation against someone and then move on) are probably braindead, like those who swallow what Trump said about the US terrorist attack in Baghdad that resulted in the death of brave Iranian general Soleimani; he calls general Soleimani, the main responsible for Iran/Syria/Russia success fighting ISIS, a "bad guy" and a "terrorist"; he said their terrorist attack on an international airport was an act of self-defense; he said the Iraqi protesters (not Iranians) who attacked the Green Zone (part of the Iraqi capital illegally occupied by the US) are terrorists while US occupiers are the victims.
For those seeking true journalism, just look at how objective and always full of facts are Murad Gazdiev's reports:
Can you find this level of professionalism and objectivity in the West? No, you can't!
Time for the dumbest geographic fallacies that only sheep-like humans can swallow:
"Uighur mainly live here, in the Xinjiang Province of northwestern China. That puts them closer to the capitals of Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan than to Beijing."
It puts them closer whatever this retarded being wishes, but they are still in China. Period!
Yes, closer to Astana than to Beijing. And Texas is closer to the Mexican Capital City than to Washington. So what? Can you imperialists give back to Mexico the lands you stole from them, please?
And occupied American Samoa, isn't it incredibly closer to Samoa than to the US? Isn't Navassa Island closer to Jamaica than to the US?
Isn't Guatanamo literally in Cuba and not in the US? Why does the US occupy a part of enemy Cuba? And don't tell me it was given to you in 1904 just because you imperial monsters have a signed document to prove it. Me too, I could point a gun to the face of a US propagandist and make him sign a document granting me all his belongings. Then what?
And Guam or the Northern Mariana Islands? And the Chagos Archipelago, where the whole population was forced out of their island to give room to an illegal US military bases (watch Stealing a Nation, by John Pilger)?
And the American Virgin Islands? And Puerto Rico? And all the other islands and atolls occupied by the US in the Pacific, Indic and Atlantic oceans?
And Hawai, an independent nation with diplomatic representation in many countries, until the day the Imperial US occupied it? Why doesn't Vox expose examples of true occupation committed by its own country?
To mention Uzbekistan geographically next to Xinjiang is not journalism, it is imbecilic manipulation of inconsequential facts. All credibility lost here! Oh, dumb propagandists!
What about France, occupying Guiana 7,000 km away from Paris? Or Reunion, 9.400 km away from Paris? Or New Caledonia, 16.400 km away from Paris? Or Corse, or Tahiti and so on?
What about all the islands and territories occupied by the British and the Dutch, thousands of kilometers away from Europe? Where are the reports about Dutch-occupied Curaçao, only dozens of kilometers away from Venezuela, the reason why it was transformed into an immense US military base with plenty of US terrorists ready to invade Venezuela at any given moment?
What about Palestine? Why does your beloved pariah state of Israel, violating dozens of UN resolutions, keep expanding and building new settlements in stolen land that belongs to Palestinians? Don't Palestinians have their own language, rituals, culture, traditions, and a different ethnic identity? Aren't Palestinians as human beings as the Uighurs (Israelis think they don't)? So, what are you waiting for to criticize Israeli barbarism and the slow-motion genocide of Palestinians being committed right now by Israel?
Look at the barbarism NOT committed by China against Uighurs but, in fact, committed by Israel Terror State against Palestinians! Look at these savage Israeli soldiers shooting an unarmed Palestinian civilian, at distance, for no reason, and celebrating it:
Look at these mentally sick Israeli soldiers shooting an unarmed and utterly scared Palestinian girl:
#Palestinian Young woman pleaded her innocence but Israeli army still killed her. What was her crime?#IsraeliCrimes in #Palestine since 1948.#Palestinains pic.twitter.com/LFUFFfkQWI
— ✌️🇵🇸✌️Mohammed pal (@hamada_najar) March 29, 2019
I apologize for the many parallel examples but, in a world of so many and so well-proven terror acts committed by Europeans, North-Americans and Israelis, to not report nor condemn those examples while insisting on reporting fakes stories about China is, by itself, a very strong argument to expose the vicious Western Media's agenda.
But let's go back to Xinjiang and Vox's lies:
"And Uighurs are also culturally closer to those Turkic groups than they are to the Han Chinese, China's ethnic majority."
Oh really, "closer to Turkic than to Han Chinese" to imply what? That Xinjiang should be Turkish? Ah, I see, so let's empty the whole American continent of Europeans, as they "are also culturally closer" to the people living in Europe, right? Send the conquistadores back to their European lands, right?
Aren't occupied Samoans "culturally closer to those" living next by, in free Samoa, than to US fascists? What are you waiting for to liberate Samoa?
Again, what were you insinuating about the Uighurs? That they should be independent just because they belong to a different ethnic group? So what are you waiting for to ask for the independence of the remaining Native Americans in the USA and Canada? And what about Afro-Americans, should they have an independent country to satisfy their identity differences? And the Hispanics, a large minority in the US with their own language, should they become independent from the US?
Do you see how easy it is to expose Vox's nonsensical bullshit? Do you see how void of real arguments this video report really is?
"The Uighurs speak a Turkic language. Their culture is different. They have particular styles of music, a whole rich history that is unique to them."
Oh really, they have all that after hundreds of years under supposed "Chinese ruthless genocidal occupation"? How comes?
That doesn't match your western accusations of extermination, genocide or concentration camps! Who in the world would protect so much and, at the same time, supposedly persecute so much the very same ethnic minority?
Don't you see that, by reminding us of the very well-preserved Uighur culture, you are contradicting yourself and exposing your own lies? How can you be that retarded to not realize how much you contradict yourself atVox?
Yes, Uighur's vibrant culture is very much alive in China. Check here some examples proving that, yes, Uighur culture is very well-respected and well-preserved by China and the Chinese authorities:
NanChuan Mosque in Yin Chuan
Mosques in Xinjiang
An Uyghur wedding
You can find more examples by clicking on the links at the end of the introduction. Or just search it online NOT using Google (censoring) search engine.
Thank you all the Chinese authorities who ruled China during the lasts centuries for not having committed cultural genocides as we Europeans did everywhere on the planet, including in our own European continent! Thank you wise China! Thank you wise Chinese!
Well, now let's check how many people in Europe still speak Breton or follow Brittonic culture in Brittany, after the French empire took control of it in the 16th century? Almost none, right? And that's just an example among thousands.
Look at what happened in America, Africa, Oceania and parts of Asia, after the Portuguese, Spanish, French, English, Germans, Italians, Danish, Belgiums and Dutch invaded everything they could find! Almost total genocide and cultural genocide of hundreds of civilizations, from almost every single African empire/civilization to the Incas in the Americas, from Aboriginal Australia to the tribes of Tierra del Fuego, we Europeans erased everything and everybody from the surface of our mother Earth.
Almost no people left from many ancient civilizations and, the remaining ones, have lost their languages, writing systems, cultures, traditions, celebrations, identities, etc.
And this is still happening right now in many places like Chiapas (Mexico), Borneo (Malaysia/Indonesia), Papua (Indonesia), the Amazon (Brazil), Congo, etc. US-backed criminal regimes like the Indonesian and/or Western private corporations are behind all these massive genocides taking place right now. Yes, right now!
Yet, in delusional arrogant West, no one knows about this current massacres and genocides. All they can care about, there in delusional West, is about the massacres that are NOT taking place in China.
I see... a US propagandist who worked to / appeared on BuzzFeed, The Daily Beast, BBC, and CBC:
Vox proposes us to listen to the words of a person who lost all credibility by having worked to the biggest liars on Earth? No, Thank you.
Vox proposes us to listen to the words of a person who won the Canadian Jewish Literary Award? No, thank you.
"I have been reporting on the Uighur crisis in China for about a year now."
Oh really, did you? Reporting, what, the non-existing crisis made up inside the offices of Western governments and Western media outlets? Otherwise, what crisis? Famine? Mass murdering? What? There's no humanitarian crisis in China you shameless liar!
On the other hand, there is plenty of humanitarian crisis going on, now, all over the planet. Why don't you report those real crises? Congo, Indonesia, Brazil, etc. No? Nothing?
Look Sigal Samuel, winner of the Canadian Jewish Literary Award, I am waiting to see you reporting on the most obvious humanitarian crisis perpetrated by Israel in occupied Palestine. Palestinians clearly have a different culture and language, and they are currently being victims of a slow-motion genocide perpetrated by your beloved Israel Terror State. So, what are you waiting for?
Please learn from real journalists:
Palestine, Histoire D'une Terre 1880 à 1991 (in French)
Palestine Is Still The Issue
The Untold History of Palestine & Israel
To make it easy for you, I recommend you to start a report on the real Palestinian crisis by alerting your audience about the clearly genocidal mindset of the Israeli people:
Or by alerting your audience about the real mega concentration camps named Gaza. Yes, a concentration camp where almost 2 million people are forced to live in a tiny strip of land, suffering a total blockade imposed by Israeli Terrorist State, which illegally controls Gaza's air-space, Gaza's waters, and Gaza's land borders!
"China has been concerned for decades about the possibility of Uighur separatism."
So what? Do you find it wrong? Anything against International Law and Chinese right to be concerned about its sovereignty and its territorial integrity?
And what about journalists working at Vox? Aren't you concerned with the fact that Uighur separatism was created by the US and it is funded and supported by the US? Aren't you concerned that Uighur so-called separatism has nothing to do with the peaceful Uighur people and all to do with US tools of terror like the Turkestan Islamic Party, the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda?
- China’s Xinjiang Problem – Made in USA
- US Sponsored Islamist Insurgency in Xinjiang? China Jails CIA’s Uighur Imams
- Fueling Terrorism in China
How dare they, the Chinese, to play according to International Law to protect their own country, right?
Americans do much better, right? Americans, when they see a resources-rich area like Kosovo (Serbia), they just steal it, right?
They sent Serbia dozens of years back in time (as even criminal Henry Kissinger admitted) by bombing all its civil infrastructure, then occupied the resources-rich province (Kosovo) and installed, in there, US's biggest military base in Europe, in total disregard to International Law, Serbia sovereignty and Serbian territorial integrity (please read my article Neo-war, NATO and the murder of Serbia):
What kind of humanism is expressed by the refusal to suffer military losses and by the civilian economic devastation of the adversary for next decades?" (Henry Kissinger)
"Uighurs have actually had their own independent nation, two separate times in the last century."
Liar. No, they didn't! Who really had their own independent nation were Hawaiians before US imperialists came and occupied it until today!
"In 1933 they established the Islamic Republic of East Turkestan here in Kashgar. But it crumbled less than a year later when it was taken over by Chinese forces."
By "they" you mean who? The people living in Kashgar? All the Uighurs living in the much larger Xinjiang Province? All Uighurs living in China? Oh men, this is so embarrassing and unprofessional. How can you declare "they established" an independent state in 1933 when your "they" has nothing to do with the much larger Uighur province of Xinjiang (which is the subject of your video)?
This first example is just too pathetic and exposes the fact that you completely ignore Chinese history. In 1933, a China in collapse - since Western powers and Japan started raping it 100 years ago -, was a country whose central government didn't have control over the whole territory. A country with many parts occupied by Japan and the West. A country already separated by 2 fronts seeking power: communists and nationalists. A country having once again a period of waring states between the end of Imperial China and the beginning of Communist China.
During that period (1911-1949), the central governments of China were unable to control the totality of its territory. Actually, there was not a true central government. What happened in 1933 in Kashgar was just an episode among many others, and rebellion from the central governments was surely not a Uighur exclusivity! Please go learn history and give us a break!
Moreover, it lasted one year, right? And how many governments of sovereign states recognized it? Oh, how pathetic!
And no, "not taken over by Chinese forces" you vile manipulator! The army of sovereign China regained control of its territory. Would you use the same language if Native Americans were to declare the independence of one of the human zoos you created to humiliate them while exterminating them in slow-motion?
Actually, for far less, the repressive forces of the US regime came and killed Native Americans, in a clear example of true oppression and true genocide:
Wounded Knee Incident 1973 The Native American Genocide
Actually, in 1985, for even far less, the US government decided to bomb an Afro-American community. Yes, the US bombed a house and killed its inhabitants inside US territory!
Philadelphia Move Bombing Documentary
So, how dare you Vox, a US media, to talk about repression in China or about the Chinese Army taking over Chinese territory?
"Then, in 1944, the Soviet Union backed the creation of the East Turkestan Republic, based here. But China became communist in 1949, the Soviet Union turned on East Turkestan, and helped China take it over again."
Wow, hilarious! And for multiple reasons.
First, the same US propaganda machine that always criticized the good deeds of the Soviet Union, somehow, backs what the Soviet Union did wrong. Really? Amazing...
Second, you are the ones saying that a sort of second Turkestan was created not by the Uighurs, but by Soviet invaders. This fact alone completely destroys your allegations about the previous existence of an independent Turkestan.
Third, come on! Soviet communists taking over Chinese Turkestan was a good thing. Then, Chinese communists taking back Chinese Turkestan was a bad thing. Oh, really? Amazing...
Fourth, yes, Soviet invaders made the right decision and gave Chinese land back to China. Anything against it?
Fifth, no, the Soviet Union did not help "China take it over again"! No. The Soviet Union just stopped messing around with Chinese sovereignty. Anything against it?
And again, your map shows a tiny part of what is today Xinjiang, and that tiny area of "second Turkestan" has nothing to do with the tiny area of "first Turkestan". And, by the way, it also has nothing to do with the size of huge Xinjiang Province. You are not talking about the same people nor the same area. Therefore, affirming Turkestan or Uighurs had independent states in the past is a grotesque lie! A pure example of fake news!
What if they have had a really independent Turkestan in the past, not in a tiny part of Xinjiang, but over the whole Xinjiang Province? How would that constitute a valid argument for you Americans to spend millions of dollars supporting al-Qaeda-linked terrorist separatism in China?
The whole Hawaii was independent in the past until you US imperialists occupied it! Why don't you ask for their independence? Or, if China were to invest millions of dollars to form a terrorist separatist movement in Hawaii, would you be supportive of such illegal and criminal policy? Of course you wouldn't!
In case you would, you could also ask Russia to send troops through the Bering Strait and help Alaska become independent, right? If you were to be coherent, you would be the first to celebrate it, right? You would tell out loud to the whole world "viva Putin's Russia stealing US land, hurray", right? Wrong!
TO BE CONTINUED
Luís Garcia, Thailand
